now that does sound cool
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| Author: | End of an Era [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 14:29 ] |
| Post subject: | eBook readers & Kindle |
Has anyone got a Kindle or similar device? Any good? Worth waiting until colour e-paper devices are more available? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 14:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Craster has one of the Sony ones (the 505 I think). I've fondled it. It was thoroughly lovely and I'm tempted to get one (mostly because I really want a new geegaw and Apple haven't released a tablet yet DAMN YOU). |
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| Author: | metalangel [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 14:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Apple haven't released a tablet yet DAMN YOU). Get bidding and you too can eat up Martha. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 15:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Yep, I've got the Sony PRS-505. It's wonderful and I love it so. Worth waiting for colour? I dunno - what do you want that would be in colour? I guess it might be worth it for graphic novels, but then I'm not convinced the res is up to doing them justice. |
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| Author: | End of an Era [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 16:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Most of the stuff I want to shove on one probably doesn't need colour, but I do occasionally get specifications (and other docs of that ilk) through which would benefit from colour. Have you encountered any problems putting PDFs on your Sony? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 18:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
None in the least - other than the fact that PDFs don't have a lot of the formatting markup that the other eBook formats do, so you occasionally get stupidly-placed page breaks. |
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| Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 18:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
MetalAngel wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Apple haven't released a tablet yet DAMN YOU). Get bidding and you too can eat up Martha. A poor mans Amstrad Penpad. |
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| Author: | Agent Starling [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 19:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I see the Kindle is coming out in the UK. Quote: Amazon's Kindle e-book reader is going on sale in more than 100 countries around the world, including the UK.
The reader has been confined to the US since its launch in November 2007; Amazon expects to have sold a million of the devices by the end of the year. The global version will run on the 3G network, although Amazon has not specified the networks that will provide connectivity for the devices. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 19:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
possibly orange as their data is better? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 19:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
KovacsC wrote: possibly orange as their data is better? Unlikely. "Almost worldwide deal" suggests Vodafone to me. They're by far the biggest operator internationally.Also, define "better". Also also, note this is not a UK Kindle launch. It's an announcement that US Kindles now get data worldwide, so for the first time, it's maybe reasonable to import one. Grannell was bitching out the price on Twitter earlier, but I think he missed the point, which is that (well, I suppose) that a formal UK launch would work out cheaper than a self-imported US model. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
better as in bigger 3g coverage. And the largest provides in the uk |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
KovacsC wrote: better as in bigger 3g coverage. And the largest provides in the uk Who, Orange? In two years, maybe. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
i thought they had better 3g than their rivals years ago. I get better on my own mobile compared to my works vodaphone. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
KovacsC wrote: better as in bigger 3g coverage. In the OFCOM test, that is true, but coverage is only part of the story; I'm actually more interested in backhaul capacity, which Orange were not great on when I was with them (neither are O2 to be fair).Quote: And the largest provides in the uk Uhh, what? O2 are the largest in the UK. As Grim... notes, they won't be the largest (by customers) until the T-mobile merger is done and dusted, which is some way off.
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
fair enough. But they will be. Where i work all over the uk Orange is better than Vodaphone. That is only what i know. |
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| Author: | End of an Era [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Might I also add, given recent events that are too painful to go in to and which I am attempting to blot out of mind with the power alcohol, Orange suck donkey dick. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
End of an Era wrote: Might I also add, given recent events that are too painful to go in to and which I am attempting to blot out of mind with the power alcohol, Orange suck donkey dick. that does not sound good.
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Also, don't buy a Kindle. Think how many times you've suddenly thought to yourself "I need Fly Fishing by J.R.Hartley, and I need it right now, in this queue for chips!" |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Well, I dunno. Sometimes my chippy runs out of fish. Also the Kindle seems to open all the same unprotected files that your Sony does, and have a better store...? |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
i still like books, but the sony device in waterstones did look quite nice. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Is it called a Kindle because they expect us to set fire to our books after purchasing one? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Quote: Through a technology termed "Whispersync," customers can keep their place across Kindle hardware devices and other mobile device Hang on. I read some of my current book in bed on my Kindle. I go to work the next day. I settle into a toilet cubicle, fire up my iPhone, load the Kindle app... and it has the same book and I'm in the same place?!DO WANT. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
now that does sound cool
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
The odds of my getting a Kindle just quadrupled. Admittedly they weren't enormous to start with. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Admittedly they weren't enormous to start with. I cry bullshit on that! It's a new gadget and yowm a big nerd. Of course you were going to get one. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Dimrill wrote: I cry bullshit on that! It's a new gadget and yowm a big nerd. Of course you were going to get one. Mein Gott! It's like you know me a little.  BUT! Is it more nerdy to want an ebook reader, or more nerdy to like proper books? CONUNDRUM. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Dimrill wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Admittedly they weren't enormous to start with. I cry bullshit on that! It's a new gadget and yowm a big nerd. Of course you were going to get one. Nah, it's not new any more. However, why would you want to read books on your iPhone when you have Kindley goodness? |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
it is normal to have books.
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| Author: | MrChris [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Dimrill wrote: I cry bullshit on that! It's a new gadget and yowm a big nerd. Of course you were going to get one. Mein Gott! It's like you know me a little. BUT! Is it more nerdy to want an ebook reader, or more nerdy to like proper books? CONUNDRUM. I think the solution is to have the ebook reader, but buy paper versions as backups, and put them in little covers that look like DAT tapes. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
KovacsC wrote: it is normal to have books. Yes, it is. Just like it was normal to carry tapes and a walkman 15 years ago. It's been a while since I actually saw someone carrying CDs or tapes around with them. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I have pockets that can fit my reader in. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Grim... wrote: However, why would you want to read books on your iPhone when you have Kindley goodness? I can't read the Kindle in boring meetings, wouldn't always have it in bus queues, and would look suspicious carrying it into the toilet in work. The idea of mostly reading on the Kindle but, umm, "fill-in" reading on the iPhone sounds most excellent to me. Note than the purchases sync across without extra charge. Note also I remarked to you in IM that I wish the Kindle did this, and now I find out it does!Mr Chris wrote: I think the solution is to have the ebook reader, but buy paper versions as backups, and put them in little covers that look like DAT tapes. I like your thinking.
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 20:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
true. I was kind of joking. But books have been around for quite a while. The tech will get better
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| Author: | Cras [ Thu Oct 08, 2009 17:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Anyone know what the battery life is like on the Kindle? The one thing I love about the Sony is that the battery life is measured in x hundred page turns, because an eInk display uses no power once rendered. I can imagine an always-on data connection changing that significantly. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
A new challenger! Barnes and Noble have announced the Nook in the US. Very similar in concept to the Kindle, in that it has 3G (and also WiFi) and is quite closely tied to the B&N bookstore brand. It's a lovely looking device, much sexier than the Kindle. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/features/techspecs/ 
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| Author: | kalmar [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
The Nook? Jesus. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
That's a pretty device. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Craster wrote: I can imagine an always-on data connection changing that significantly. Is it always on? I thought it was on demand. Craster wrote: A new challenger! That looks far nicer than the kindle.
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| Author: | Mimi [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
kalmar wrote: The Nook? Jesus. Cripes. There is no way it's going to sell with a name like that  
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
we call our dog Nook, as it is short for Nanook... It would make me chuckle if I had one. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
BitterWallet says that ebooks on the B&N service will be "significantly cheaper" than paperbacks and that this new Nook device runs Android. VERY INTERESTED. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Aaaaand http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketc ... eader.html Quote: Nook owners can share: They can lend their books to friends -- anyone with an iPhone, iPod touch, some smartphones and computers with the B&N reader software. No other digital reader has this capacity.
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
After reading several books on it, do you wake up one day to find that your eBook reader has grown larger? So you read a few more and all of a sudden there's another screen on it with two irritating twins on there commenting on everything you read? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Bitterwallet have totally misread Gizmodo. BN have said that eBooks will be significantly cheaper than their paper counterparts for those books that BN publish. Yes, BN are a publisher. No, I've never bought a book published by BN, and I suspect you haven't either. It is Android though, yes. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Quote: Nook owners can share: They can lend their books to friends -- anyone with an iPhone, iPod touch, some smartphones and computers with the B&N reader software. No other digital reader has this capacity. I can share. It's called "attach .lrf or .epb file to email". "Send". |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Craster wrote: I can share. It's called "attach .lrf or .epb file to email". "Send". Sure, with the other seven Sony eReader owners. Out here in the real world, we'll be measuring this new device against the Kindle.
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Craster wrote: I can share. It's called "attach .lrf or .epb file to email". "Send". Sure, with the other seven Sony eReader owners. Out here in the real world, we'll be measuring this new device against the Kindle.Ooh, get her! Helpfully, B&N have already done a comparison for you. Note how they helpfully include non-biased categories like "Allow you to download content inside a Barnes & Noble bookstore". http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/compare/ I like this thing, it's a really nice-looking device. I'd just hate to see the future being locked into single distribution channels of drm-restricted content. Also, you missed the comment about Bitterwallet being utterly wrong about the pricing. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
Craster wrote: Helpfully, B&N have already done a comparison for you. Note how they helpfully include non-biased categories like "Allow you to download content inside a Barnes & Noble bookstore". Indeed, this diagram provoked a hearty mohh.Quote: I like this thing, it's a really nice-looking device. I'd just hate to see the future being locked into single distribution channels of drm-restricted content. Absolutely. The best thing that can happen is to have multiple successful platforms now so the publishers can be prodded into moving to a common platform later. So this device coming out is a good thing.I think the colour screen is a gimmick mind. Quote: Also, you missed the comment about Bitterwallet being utterly wrong about the pricing. I didn't miss it. I just wanted to get the burn in about the eReader.
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: eBook readers |
I'd take one of them. The wifi would still work in the UK, wouldn't it? |
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