Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Frankly I don't understand your position in the slightest
Really? Have you actually given it
any thought, or are you in too much of a hurry to get to the keyboard?
What, am I typing too fast for you? Seriously, what does this even mean? That if I don't agree with you it can only be because I just haven't thought about it enough?
The latter. Nothing I'm saying is complicated. If it helps, it eventually boils down to "some people enjoy different things to others", or "why should the vocal people get to say what should change and what shouldn't". Oddly, it eventually comes back to bridleways. But that's just me.
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
If it helps, it's really, really good
I thought you yourself weren't actually playing it? That's not a dig, I thought it was just the Grimlet who was playing it.
Indeed so. He says it's the best game he's ever played*, and it keeps him the fuck quiet, so it's really good that way, too.
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
They're entitled to shit all. All they have to do is not fucking buy it! There's no better way to make a point to the publisher than to not spend money on the fucking thing. There are umpteen other games to play that don't want your money, and if they sell loads more copies than games with MTX in then MTX will go away really, really quickly.
People are always entitled to opinions about stuff in their sphere of interest and claiming otherwise is flat out bonkers.
Absolutely they're entitled to an opinion, but they're presenting it as fact.
"Everybody hates this.
No-one wants loot creates."
I really fucking disliked Alien: Covenant and I happen to love the shit out of the Xenomorph franchise, but I don't feel I have any right to demand that Ridley Scott changes the movie, or that he shouldn't be allowed to make any more.
Bamba wrote:
That's always true, but in this specific case the fact that not complaining will normalise this crap for future games is more than justification enough. Yes, people can not buy the game but sadly there's enough idiots out there--especially when it comes to fanboy bait like Star Wars--who will close their eyes and make their excuses and stump up for it anyway so that protest in itself isn't likely to be effective enough.
Well, sorry, but that's tough shit. Maybe the people that enjoy this gameplay mechanic and enjoy Star Wars too get to keep this one? They can not buy the next one instead.
Bamba wrote:
And if that simply meant, for instance, that EA got rewarded for making a single shite game then yeah, hell-mend the idiots that bought it and that would be the end of that. But the fact that we've even got to the stage where you're able to pull out an industry standard abbreviation for bloody micro-transactions shows how pervasive this has become in general. None of this is happening in a bubble and even people who aren't and won't buy this one game have more than enough reason to worry about the direction it's dragging us all.
A slightly different (more general) point here, but it's not inconceivable for the opposite direction to MTX (or DLC, although the distinction is blurry) to be 'really expensive initial purchase prices'. Right now, I (and you, I wager) play a lot of free mobile games. I'm really enjoying one called Golf Clash, for example, and it's completely free - you can buy jewels that help you get better clubs and stuff, but you can get them by just playing the game enough (or by just waiting for the free chests to come in, I guess).
Thing is, this game is only free because 1% of people (or whatever) pay for those gems - and that's a model I'm more than okay with. Let Johnny Richman pay the devs and have his shiny stuff, I'm down with that if it means I get the game cheaper.
Bamba wrote:
apologies dude.
No worries
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
I could see people being angry if they bought the game and then suddenly it was changed to something else, that's a shitty thing to do. And, wouldn't you know it - that's exactly what they've caused to happen.
Technically this is true but it's not like they've removed swathes of functionality or something, they've changed the economy surrounding the functionality to make it less of a piss take. And unless there's evidence of masses of people who thought the original balance of the game was brilliant fun then it's a weak argument in this specific case.
Why masses? Why not one?
* I have watched him play, and I might give the singleplayer a go at some point, as it looks fun. The other thing I've noticed is that you get skill matched (unless you turn that off) so you can't really 'pay to win', as you'll always be playing people with similar loadouts. The other thing is that the Grimlet is kicking the shit out of everyone with the basic trooper and pistol, so
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Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.