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selling a gfx card?

Nah. Don't have any spares. If I did I would likely get a case/psu and some ram and build the bugger. Would take up far less space

What have you got now, out of interest.

That's a really nice lighty uppy keyboard there, if anyone's interested. I have one and it's great.

280GTX. I got it for £169+ a fiver shipping ages ago from VCS.

It was refurb but is the XXX edition (642mhz opposed to 602).

They still offer them new hnyarr. (brand new)


http://videocardshop.co.uk/product.asp? ... -280N-ZDF9


But it's so hard to recc them when they also have these also -


http://videocardshop.co.uk/product.asp? ... -489A-ZDFC

And these if you're pushed for cash -

http://videocardshop.co.uk/product.asp? ... -260N-ADF9

http://videocardshop.co.uk/product.asp? ... -487A-YDFC

It should have the remainder of the warranty with Scan on it too. (at least 8 months).

The HDD has a couple of months (IIRC) warranty with WD. It had a 5 year on being a retail drive.

so, I bought a load of bits over the weekend and built a PC.

It's got an i7 920 cpu (if that means anything to you)

I've overclocked it using settings I found on the interweb, which I'm sure will be fine (!)

Anyways, its now running at 4GHz, up from 2.6GHz, and after running the 3D mark vantage benchmark, the CPU got upto 75C after the last CPU intesive test. Is that a safe temperature, seeing as it probably as intense a test as the cpu will ever get?

That's pretty hot yes. Are you using a standard Intel cooler? I would replace it ASAP they're shockingly bad.

nah, I'm using a Corsair H20 thing which was on offer at scan. Quite a well made bit of kit concidering it never going to be seen.

That's what I use I think. Asetek rebranded..

You are aware that it's no better than a top end air cooling solution just quieter? You might get like, 1 or 2 more c's less but that would be it.

I know very little about I7s and I5s because I chose to go AMD this round. I do know however that 4ghz is pretty much the fastest you can get a 920 to go so those temps don't really suprise me

75 c max is perfectly fine, your room will just need the heating turned off

Ah. Taken from Techpowerup.



Which as I say, doesn't suprise me because even the old Core quads can go to 85 or so.

cool (arf!), I'll stop worrying. As for heating, I live in a hovel with no central heating, so any extra heat is a good thing!

now got to chapter 2 of Dead Space... i do liek this game, even better as it is free,

I'll give you fiddeen for the lot, JC.

You probably would.

Any way, to add.

One Noctua 92uf worth about £40. It's a 92mm fan version of the 120mm fan one. Doesn't have the Noctua fan though.
One Foxconn Fox one worth about £7. It's a PCI centrifugal slot cooler.

I'll chuck, I mean safely pack those in the box with the rest.

Teehee:
http://www.destructoid.com/the-ultimate ... 5752.phtml

Pfffff. It's no better than a normal keyboard and you can't prove it. But you must.

All true, alas.

Still,

PC's are only superior in the form of sims and mods. I have also decided that while keyboards and mice are more accurate, joypads are, critically, more fun. Fun wins everytime, natch.

I don't think it's really much like Dawn Of War 2 at all - it's much more like Dawn of War 1, what with the base building and the strategic points and such.

Of course, happily and conversely, gamers will find that tax returns now have all the action fun of a PC shooter!

Aion, the latest Korean grind-fest, has built in macro support (as opposed to you having to haxx0r this in) so as to enable you to largely automate your grind. At the push of a button, your winged avatar will kill the diseased boars, loot the corpse... simples! And so the MMO steps even closer to the entirely uninteractive watching-a-bar-fill action of Progress Quest.

Star Wars Galaxies had that years ago.

It used to lead to 'hilarious' accidents where by your /follow would accidentally lock onto a fellow player instead of some beastie, and you'd follow them constantly for an hour trying to /skin them while you were off doing something more interesting.

Was it Jonathan Nash or Jonathan Davies who once theorised that games would one day play themselves, and offer you a mild electric shock if you attempted to interfere? That sounds like the grinding clods ultimate desire for MMO's. Grrrs.

its a good idea. At least saves us from the bore of playing the game.

Been playing a bit of borderlands. It's good fun except for the absolutely ridiculous field of view. I tried to change it with online guides, but it never works

Speaking of which, have you seen that zombie thing for it? (yes, I know, more zombies)

There's an excellent/disturbing picture of Han, Chewie and a twi'lek jedi standing on a pile of junk fighting off a swarm of zombie Storm Troopers. To remove the obvious thing that stops a Storm Trooper being scary, all the zombies have somehow removed/bitten through the air filter part of their mask so you can see their gnashing mouth (though surely the rest of the helmet around it would prevent anything actually getting into their mouth to be bitten). There's also a zombie officer and a zombie wookiee attacking.

Er.



It does feel a bit like Gayness Ex 2: Electric Boogaloo did. Like I'm constantly leaning forward or zoomed in.

Really? I had no issues whatsoever with FOV on the 360 version - is it different?

Split-screen on 360 is better left unmentioned, of course.

RAGE.

You get used to it, but it is severely annoying, and the menu system is seriously lazy.

"UNH! UNH! UNH! UNH! CHECK ME OUT?"
"Are you dancing?"
"Are you asking?"
"THEN I'M DANCING!"

It can't be worse than what they implemented for Fable 2.

from what i learned in the internet, no. It's the same. It's just the pc players are more vocal about it.

Oh. I can't say it seemed any less usable than any other first person game I've ever played.

I don't like it at all tbh.

I was being pessimistic because I had read opinions of it before release but the gist to me goes like this.

Go to someone. Go off and play space invaders style shoot em up with waves of enemies. Poor aiming system, can shoot people in the head numerous times and they fail to die.

Repeat ad nauseum. It has no soul really, just predictable and boring.

I quote my magazine -

Counterquote!



It's an RPG, not an FPS. In Fallout 3 you can shoot people repeatedly in the head and they fail to die.

Quote from my magazine:

Once you level up and have good perks it's usually a forgone. However, these aren't humans we're talking about in FO3, they're mutants and stuff. One decent pop to a Raiders head and it's usually lights out.

If it is an RPG then it needs to be an RPG with some kind of combat system put into place. Like VATS, or something like the turn based systems used in Paper Mario and FF.

What have I told you about sending my love letters into porn mags?

You're forgetting it's built largely around mulitplayer Co-op, thus VATS would be impossible. If you haven't played it multiplayer you're missing the main point.

A lot of PC gamers seem to get upset about widescreen displays having a horizontally expanded FOV, compared to 4:3 screens. This gives a "zoomed in" feeling, apparently, although I studied the screenshots of Bioshock and couldn't fathom what they were complaining about.

for me this game shows how rogue-likes should be done. Instead of having a gameplay consisting on mindless clicking on enemies, we have some fun fps where player skill matters. And it's fun to hunt for new weapons since they all feel different and look different, so it's just not a matter of looking for a weapons that plays exactly like the one you have but has +1 to damage.

Too bad about the FOV though

Why does it need to be? There's plenty of examples of this style of play. Basically any realtime RPG. VATS is fine, but would you completely dismiss the F3 combat without it? Also, I don't see why pausing the game a-la VATS changes anything - there's still a mathematical hit and damage calculation being performed, based on the weapon you're using and your skills. Which is exactly the same as how Borderlands does it.

I guess 90% of everything I've played on the PC has been 3rd person isometric, and most of my FPS experience has been on consoles, so I never really notice.

Because RPGs do not have the aiming systems that FPS do. If you're going to do an RPG with an FPS aiming system it needs to be good. Sadly Borderlands aiming system is cack. My opinion of course, but compared to something like MW2 or HL2 or any other decent FPS it's poo.

How many people complained about the aiming system in Fallout 3? because I remember a good few, one in particular saying he wanted to redo the game without VATS but gave up shortly afterwards.

Knowing you you probably set the res to your desired res *and* set the settings for the res too? for example, most of the games I have installed recently not only have resolotion settings (IE- 1680x1050 which is what I use) but also 4:3, 16:9 and 16:10.

I don't even think I know what this means. Every realtime RPG pretty much has the same aiming system. If you're pointing at the target, you have a chance to hit. You then apply modifiers to that based on character skills and weapon characteristics.

It's like any FPS, but taking skills into account. Hence the RPG bit.



I don't understand. Surely you just don't press the VATS button? I must have only used VATS for 50% of the game, max.

No, I game on the 360.

Well the aiming system was so poor that all I seemed to be doing was running backwards shooting things until I was pretty much at the point I had left from. Then when they were all dead I had to walk all the way back to where I had been. Boring and ultimately incredibly predictable.



No I don't *just* press the VATS button. But without it the game would have been pretty bad. I use it mainly up close to save on ammo because without using it you tend to use about ten times the ammo falling enemies.

Oh I see. Fair enough

Reading fail.

So that's not the aiming system being poor, it's the game simulating the fact that you're a skill-less noob. Which you are at the start of the game.

It reads like you want RPGs to be FPSs - they're never going to be that. If it's a style of game you don't like, then fine - but that's not a 'poor aiming system', it's a different type of game.