Bits and Bobs 22 - Two Little Ducks

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

@ Grim.... That article in this month's issue on taking the Citreon concept car around Harrods was a brilliant example.

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:10

Grim... wrote:

Craster wrote:

They are serious publications.

Someone else that hasn't read Top Gear magazine

It's about two steps up from Max Power.

Hmm, I'd say TG Mag was a perfectly serious mag until 6-12 months ago, certainly better than some others out there like What Car. Personally, I'm an Evo and Car Magazine kind of guy (not to mention Retro Ford and Bike).

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49233

OK - I was more referencing The Times there, to be honest.

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:14

Craster wrote:

OK - I was more referencing The Times there, to be honest.

Oh for sure, that was the prime example that I gave - a motoring column that gives marks out of ten and specific recommedations for various cars, for potential purchasers. One would hope, therefore, that such a person would be well informed and an expert in such matters, not an 'internet persona' or 'brand' hamming it up for his media audience.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Craster wrote:

OK - I was more referencing The Times there, to be honest.

A publication that lets Giles Coren have an opinion column in the news section?

Wullie · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 6183

Tam Shields writes an opinion column in the Glesga Herald, but he must mean everything that he writes because it's a serious publication :roll:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/t ... -1.1053029

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49233

Mr Kissyfur wrote:

Craster wrote:

OK - I was more referencing The Times there, to be honest.

A publication that lets Giles Coren have an opinion column in the news section?

Yes.

Quote:

every columnist in the country writes to a 'persona' - because they know what exact opinions they need to express in order to bring in readers.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Craster wrote:

Mr Kissyfur wrote:

Craster wrote:

OK - I was more referencing The Times there, to be honest.

A publication that lets Giles Coren have an opinion column in the news section?

Yes.

Quote:

every columnist in the country writes to a 'persona' - because they know what exact opinions they need to express in order to bring in readers.

"Serious publication" != one that lets an uniformed, shortarsed restaurant critic comment on current events.

sdg · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:17

Hometimes!

Laters geeks x

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:17

Wullie wrote:

Tam Shields writes an opinion column in the Glesga Herald, but he must mean everything that he writes because it's a serious publication :roll:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/t ... -1.1053029

Does this humourous column serve an explicit, stated purpose of rating and recommending cars to would-be purchasers?

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49233

Mr Kissyfur wrote:

"Serious publication" != one that lets an uniformed, shortarsed restaurant critic comment on current events.

Does he wear a sailor's outfit?

Anyway - you can be serious without being clever.

Wullie · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 6183

Captain Caveman wrote:

Wullie wrote:

Tam Shields writes an opinion column in the Glesga Herald, but he must mean everything that he writes because it's a serious publication :roll:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/t ... -1.1053029

Does this humourous column serve an explicit, stated purpose of rating and recommending cars to would-be purchasers?

Occasionally, although they're not usually recommendations :DD

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:22

superdupergill wrote:

Hometimes!

Laters geeks x

Have fun.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49233

Wednesday afternoon is taking too long.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:28

Captain Caveman wrote:

OK, here's a definition of 'turbo lag' (emphasis added):

Quote:

Turbo lag refers to a short delay before the turbocharger develops sufficient boost (pressure above atmospheric pressure). As the accelerator pedal is pressed down for rapid acceleration, the engine may lack power for a few seconds. This is caused by the impeller and turbine not spinning fast enough...

In other words it is a BRIEF, TRANSIENT THING as I previously mentioned; it is a function of impeller inertia. You're talking about something completely different - boost threshold - which is nothing whatsoever to do with turbo lag.

Turbo lag has nothing to do with the continuous lack of pulling power at low RPM, in a Mitsi Evo, end of. To describe it as such is to totally and utterly misunderstand what 'turbo lag' even is. End of story.

Oh right, you were talking about the difference between boost threshold and lag (like I said at the end of the last page), fair enough.
That makes Clarkson even more right in my head, as 99% of the population (as I said) think that's exactly what turbo lag is. Including the inventors of the anti-lag system.

We'll be arguing about the difference between 4x4 and 4WD next

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32621

Wogan'sTrouserBulge wrote:

I've just cancelled seven pre-orders with Amazon because the delivery estimates are all for the Monday after a Friday release, despite choosing first class delivery.

From the Rock Band 3 pre-order page:

Quote:

Want to receive this the day it comes out? Select FREE First Class at checkout.

Halo Reach says the same. I'd suggest the delivery estimate in the order page is inaccurate, is all.

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

FREE first class? Is that because you're a Prime guy? Mine just says First Class. Anyway, I don't think the delivery page is inaccurate. I think that's inaccurate. The delivery page only changed today or yesterday because I checked it on Monday as well. On Monday everything was set for release-day delivery. Today they were set for the following Monday. The Reach one hasn't changed because I'm using expedited.

Also, you could try looking at the game I actually cancelled:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dead-Rising-2-X ... 153&sr=1-3 - DR2 - no mention of "get it on release day" anymore - I do distinctly remember it saying that when I ordered it, though - page is different to the Rock Band one.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:36

Now that you've cancelled them all, we can't find out if it's accurate or not. Order one again. SCIENCE!

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:39

I fear Cavey may have actually exploded with rage!

:kiss:

WTB · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 14497

We can!

zaphod79 wrote:

Wogan'sTrouserBulge wrote:

I've swapped my Dead Rising 2 pre-order to GAME with express delivery, so I'll see how that one turns out. I've also got Reach still coming from Amazon with expedited delivery - for the sake of science. I'll see what happens with those two and then I might have to give Prime a trial or never use Amazon again as the case may be.

If your interested I can let you know when my Amazon pre-order of DR2 shows up , i just checked my account and its showing 'expected' for the Monday , and it also tells me that i pre-ordered it on the first of August ........ 2009

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:43

Grim... wrote:

I fear Cavey may have actually exploded with rage!

:kiss:

Meh, not at all mate.

In the nicest possible way, I think you're talking a bunch of arse and are demonstrably wrong. But hey, I'm no stranger to that myself. Welcome to the Losers Club.

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:45

I once got an email saying that an album I'd pre-ordered had been dispatched from the US. I had no recollection of doing this until I checked my records and discovered that a few months previously I'd ordered it very late at night after a heavy session of ['reminiscing with chums over a couple of glasses of orange juice' -Temperance ed.]. Still, at least it was one I wanted.

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:54

superdupergill wrote:

Happy Birthday GazChap! Hope you have a nice day x

So it is! Happy birthday!

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10101

Captain Caveman wrote:

Grim... wrote:

I fear Cavey may have actually exploded with rage!

:kiss:

Meh, not at all mate.

In the nicest possible way, I think you're talking a bunch of arse and are demonstrably wrong. But hey, I'm no stranger to that myself. Welcome to the Losers Club.

But on the other hand, it was workable to the layman who doesn't have the smallest clue how a turbo works. On an evening entertainment show.

They do a perfectly adequate job of getting stuff like "this 400bhp car is bloody useless in many surprising circumstances" across to Joe Bloggs. If you can't accept and enjoy that you're not in the target audience and should try to ignore it, much like I do with the £120 of my license fee I get no pleasure from.

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:56

Yes, happy birthday Gazchap.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:58

Captain Caveman wrote:

In the nicest possible way, I think you're talking a bunch of arse and are demonstrably wrong. But hey, I'm no stranger to that myself. Welcome to the Losers Club.

I understand that you are technically correct (which, as we know, is the best kind of correct), and I myself understand the difference between lag and boost threshold.
But if JC had said "boost threshold" about eight people in his audience would have known what he was on about, so he used the commonly-wrong phrase "turbo lag" as more people would get that.

And happy Birthday to gazchap.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 16:59

Captain Caveman wrote:

Yes, happy birthday Gazchap.

What they said!

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49233

Indeed. Hope you've had a good one, Gaz.

devilman · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:02

Grim... wrote:

Captain Caveman wrote:

In the nicest possible way, I think you're talking a bunch of arse and are demonstrably wrong. But hey, I'm no stranger to that myself. Welcome to the Losers Club.

I understand that you are technically correct (which, as we know, is the best kind of correct).
But if JC had said "boost threshold" about eight people in his audience would have known what he was on about, so he used the commonly-wrong phrase "turbo lag" as more people would get that.

And happy Birthday to JC.

JC's birthday was in April.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:03

Yeah, I was fixing that, but fit colleague #24 came to talk to me.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:06

Cars, eh.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6552

Happy Birthday GazChap!

You share your birthday with such luminaries as poet Siegfried Sassoon, medieval kingly fighting dude Richard the Lionheart and c-list celebrity Anne Diamond. Exalted company indeed!

kalmar · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:16

Happy birthday Gazchap!

Top Gear is shit!

Laterz gill-geek x!

Cavey is fully correct on turbo lag!

JC stop buying fucking computer parts!

There, that saved a bit of time

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:21

Grim... wrote:

Captain Caveman wrote:

In the nicest possible way, I think you're talking a bunch of arse and are demonstrably wrong. But hey, I'm no stranger to that myself. Welcome to the Losers Club.

I understand that you are technically correct (which, as we know, is the best kind of correct), and I myself understand the difference between lag and boost threshold.
But if JC had said "boost threshold" about eight people in his audience would have known what he was on about, so he used the commonly-wrong phrase "turbo lag" as more people would get that.

Grim..., earlier today. I believe the expression is 'PWNED'.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/pwne ... l.gif?o=24

(childish joke only, obv.

)

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:21

Happy Birthday GazChap! Sorry it's a bit late.

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:24

Captain Caveman wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Captain Caveman wrote:

In the nicest possible way, I think you're talking a bunch of arse and are demonstrably wrong. But hey, I'm no stranger to that myself. Welcome to the Losers Club.

I understand that you are technically correct (which, as we know, is the best kind of correct), and I myself understand the difference between lag and boost threshold.
But if JC had said "boost threshold" about eight people in his audience would have known what he was on about, so he used the commonly-wrong phrase "turbo lag" as more people would get that.

Grim..., earlier today. I believe the expression is 'PWNED'.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/pwne ... l.gif?o=24

(childish joke only, obv.

)

Cavey · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:32

LOL, classic.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:34

Jesus fucking Christ. Piers Morgan has landed Larry King's job on CNN. Fucking lying scumball cunt.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Michael Jackson's dead, too.

But yeah, unbe-fucking-lievable. I hate Piers Morgan mroe than anyone else I can think of. Even Hitler.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 18:24

Sorry if I missed the news. Must've been buried under talk of cars and phones.

TheVision · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 18:24

I too hate Piers Morgan but if this keeps him off my TV then I'm all for it.

Useless prick...

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Dimrill wrote:

Sorry if I missed the news. Must've been buried under talk of cars and phones.

It was being reported in The Meeja a few weeks (months, even) ago - I don't think it was much talked about here, to be fair.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38519

Mainly because any talk of Morgan is wasted effort.

Stoopid Yanks

Anonymous X · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2046

Mr Kissyfur wrote:

Was there a non-shit series of Transformers comics? I have a very vivid memory of a really excellent collection (possibly an annual), that most notably had a story in it about the white Porsche one (with red and blue stripes - possibly Martini branding?) having a proper falling out with Optimus and hiding under some rubbish. It was actually quite good, and "grown up", rather than being a kiddies comic. There was some sort of schism within the Autobots, or something.

I haven't read that story you mention, featuring Jazz and everything, but if it was an annual, it'll be part of the Marvel UK comic series. Which was a mix of Marvel US reprints and original stories and stuff, and had a lot more exposure amongst British kids than the cartoon series did, come to think of it.

The modern-day Transformers comics is published by IDW, which started off pretty well until the series was rebooted in 2008 with the All Hail Megatron (aka Epic Fail Hackwriter) story arc, and it's not been worth reading since, apart from Last Stand of the Wreckers mini-series (now trade paperback, etc), which was very in the style of the Marvel UK Transformers comic, and written by British people.

nickachu · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 20:22

Happy Day Gazchap!

On another note,
Still can't understand why my phone won't let me post on the forum these days tho... keep getting data connectivity issues... any other desire users getting this?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38519

Nope. Mine's fine dude.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 20:30

I am bored of hotels now.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 20:31

Maybe you need to put more petrol in the fucking thing.

nickachu · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 20:32

DavPaz wrote:

Nope. Mine's fine dude.

Bums

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Sep 08, 2010 20:32

KovacsC wrote:

I am bored of hotels now.

Have you dismantled the trouser press yet?

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