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Author:  kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 17:57 ]
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1.8: 1 bank of cylinders: 1 coil
3.2: 2 banks of cylinders: 2 coils

Quite possibly the same part number. Just a guess though.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 17:58 ]
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There's a coil pack per cylinder, it sits directly on top of the plug.

Oh, and the car was £935 all in.

The biting point is much narrower and sharper, the pedal is lighter, gear change is less notchy, it barely clanks when turning it off, the old bits were clearly dead (the flywheel bearings were making grinding noises and the springs were really slack).

But because of the shitty snow I can't tell if the revs rising before the speedo (just slightly, momentarily) is something else broken or just the wheels scrabbling. The rear certainly wasn't backward about coming forward at 30 in 3rd when I dabbed the throttle, which I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have done on Monday.

I need to see if the 'pulling itself in gear' kangarooing is gone. Given the amount of play on the flywheel, combined with clutch slipping, I think it might be. I think I'll reset one of the consumption meters too, before I set off to Oxford. If I set off to Oxford - better had be able too, we're now in 100% payment territory on the hotel room.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 18:11 ]
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kalmar wrote:
kalmar wrote:
A multimeter (even a £5 maplin one) would be a bit help in figuring out what's going on.


Failing that - a quick test. Turn on the headlights. Turn the key to start. Do the headlights dim only slightly, dim a lot, or go out completely?

This instruction for MaliA... :)



I'll try that over the weekend, cheers.

Author:  kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 18:12 ]
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Leave the new battery on charge until then, I'd suggest.

@Grim... the first google result for "audi tt coil" mentions problems, so it looks like "yes".

Author:  metalangel [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 22:21 ]
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Honda unveils new naked bike (potentially NSFW)

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:48 ]
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Could the now very very slight momentary hesitation be the stupid spring in the stupid dual-mass stupid flywheel loading up? It does still clank when I turn it off (if it's what I think it is it would've been a cheap fix done yesterday... sigh), but it doesn't kangaroo now, so that's good.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 13:15 ]
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My new blow-off valve arrived today, and it's a fucking fake! A bloody good fake, but a fake nevertheless.

I expect it'll still work, but I'm not sure I'm 100% happy.

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 14:25 ]
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Nope, definitely still seems to be slipping. Grim..., you'll have to see what you think at the meet.

Seems much easier to push around a corner though, easier to start the back stepping out, and more communicative and controllable.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 14:33 ]
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Has it got soul though?

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 14:34 ]
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Yep, but it's not a soldier.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 14:39 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
Nope, definitely still seems to be slipping. Grim..., you'll have to see what you think at the meet.

I'll have a go.
Didn't it just go to the garage, though?

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 15:17 ]
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BBC Guide to stopping a car with a jammed accelerator

Major insight boils down to:

1. Press clutch
2. Brake

Wow.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 15:24 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
BBC Guide to stopping a car with a jammed accelerator

Major insight boils down to:

1. Press clutch
2. Brake

Wow.


FFS. And they merrily assume that all cars have ignition keys and manually-selectable gears. Just stamp on the brakes, you loonies.

Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 15:25 ]
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Just jump out the car. Let someone else deal with it.

Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 15:36 ]
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Grim... wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
BBC Guide to stopping a car with a jammed accelerator

Major insight boils down to:

1. Press clutch
2. Brake

Wow.


FFS. And they merrily assume that all cars have ignition keys and manually-selectable gears. Just stamp on the brakes, you loonies.

I reckon that's what 95% of people would do anyway. This 'advice' is just going to confuse them.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 15:48 ]
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What a ridiculously confusing article!

Has to be said though, it's a bit of a concern on something like a 300 HP automatic Lexus, with no key to turn off. It's all very well saying to stomp on the brake, but with the throttle wide open you won't have much brake assist. By the time you figure that out and start really jumping on the pedal, the pads might already have overheated. Then you are a bit knackered.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:06 ]
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Lexus's that don't have ignition keys operate a push button start/stop, and you hold down the button for 3 seconds to kill the engine. Not something that many people would immediately think of in a panic, but you would hope that you'd get familiar enough with your car to know what to do in an emergency.

And even automatics have a neutral, right?

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:07 ]
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But can you shift to neutral whilst the engine is red lining?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:10 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Lexus's that don't have ignition keys operate a push button start/stop, and you hold down the button for 3 seconds to kill the engine. Not something that many people would immediately think of in a panic, but you would hope that you'd get familiar enough with your car to know what to do in an emergency.

And even automatics have a neutral, right?

Yes, but if they are electronic gearboxes they can happily ignore you.

And the chap above was a highway patrol officer, IIRC.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:23 ]
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Quite.

As for holding down a button for 3 seconds, OK, but how far has the car travelled in that time at 125MPH? Plus, if you're panicking and trying to avoid traffic at the same time...

I think this is genuinely a case of over-computerising things.

Author:  metalangel [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:29 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Quite.

As for holding down a button for 3 seconds, OK, but how far has the car travelled in that time at 125MPH? Plus, if you're panicking and trying to avoid traffic at the same time...


Don't forget you're calling 911 at the same time.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:35 ]
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And probably eating a doughnut and drinking coffee.

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:36 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Quite.

As for holding down a button for 3 seconds, OK, but how far has the car travelled in that time at 125MPH? Plus, if you're panicking and trying to avoid traffic at the same time...

I think this is genuinely a case of over-computerising things.
And you kill the engine and lose all brake assist anyway...

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:37 ]
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And invading Iraq.

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:37 ]
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Grim... wrote:
BikNorton wrote:
Nope, definitely still seems to be slipping. Grim..., you'll have to see what you think at the meet.
I'll have a go.
Didn't it just go to the garage, though?
Yes. That's why I'm wondering why it's still giving the impression of slipping, accordingly to the dials (but not so much the kick in the caboose).

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:38 ]
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kalmar wrote:
Quite.

As for holding down a button for 3 seconds, OK, but how far has the car travelled in that time at 125MPH? Plus, if you're panicking and trying to avoid traffic at the same time...

I think this is genuinely a case of over-computerising things.


I've said it before - all cars should have dead-switches. My racing car has to have one, and that will never have to opportunity to kill as many people as any road car.
A nice, big, physical switch that cuts power from the battery and the alternator. It would cost practically nothing, either.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:39 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
Grim... wrote:
BikNorton wrote:
Nope, definitely still seems to be slipping. Grim..., you'll have to see what you think at the meet.
I'll have a go.
Didn't it just go to the garage, though?
Yes. That's why I'm wondering why it's still giving the impression of slipping, accordingly to the dials (but not so much the kick in the caboose).

Shouldn't it be going back to the garage, then?

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:40 ]
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Are the dials fucked, too?

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 16:40 ]
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No time before Bruges, I'm off in half an hour. I'll pop it back next week.
Sir Taxalot wrote:
Are the dials fucked, too?
I have been giving semi-serious consideration to the state of the electrical system for a while.

Overall, I think this is largely my pessimism at work. Possibly also shit tyres and wet roads.

Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 17:17 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I've said it before - all cars should have dead-switches. My racing car has to have one, and that will never have to opportunity to kill as many people as any road car.
A nice, big, physical switch that cuts power from the battery and the alternator. It would cost practically nothing, either.


100% agreed. Most bikes have them, and they're a bloody godsend if anything goes wrong. Pittance to implement, no downsides.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 17:19 ]
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You could use a key, even, to make it lock in the off position when the key is removed!

I should patent that.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 17:38 ]
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When I did my CBT, a couple were there learning how to ride 500cc bikes as part of their DAS tuition. They were doing simple maneouvres in the car park and then made their way back to the staging area for a debriefing. The man parked up, turned the ignition off and straddled the bike to listen to the instructor. The woman followed, but screwed up and lost control of the bike on the approach and revved it up in a panic, hurling the bike forward and colliding with her husband's bike. Fortunately he wasn't injured, but the bike started to climb over the now-floored bike and looked like it was going to have a crack at the guy's head when the instructor swooped in and activated the killswitch.

Why cars don't have them has been a source of wonder for me too.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 17:41 ]
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Heh, that must be a fairly common occurrence - the wall of the portacabin at the place I did my DAS had a big dent in it about halfway up.
Instructor: "Remember to let go of the throttle if it gets away from you, or you'll end up embedded in my office like some idiot last year [points at dent]"

Author:  myp [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 17:57 ]
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MetalAngel wrote:
kalmar wrote:
Quite.

As for holding down a button for 3 seconds, OK, but how far has the car travelled in that time at 125MPH? Plus, if you're panicking and trying to avoid traffic at the same time...


Don't forget you're calling 911 at the same time.

I'm not sure how shouting at a Porsche is going to help.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 18:00 ]
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Great to see you back on form Myp.

I almost felt a twitch in my mildly amused gland.

Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 18:05 ]
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GazChap wrote:
When I did my CBT, a couple were there learning how to ride 500cc bikes as part of their DAS tuition. They were doing simple maneouvres in the car park and then made their way back to the staging area for a debriefing. The man parked up, turned the ignition off and straddled the bike to listen to the instructor. The woman followed, but screwed up and lost control of the bike on the approach and revved it up in a panic, hurling the bike forward and colliding with her husband's bike. Fortunately he wasn't injured, but the bike started to climb over the now-floored bike and looked like it was going to have a crack at the guy's head when the instructor swooped in and activated the killswitch.

Why cars don't have them has been a source of wonder for me too.


I laid the bike down on a U-turn on my CBT, and instinctively held on for dear life, pinning the throttle in the process. I can easily understand how other rookies might do the same!

Author:  myp [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 18:18 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Great to see you back on form Myp.

I almost felt a twitch in my mildly amused gland.

How about you get your own jokes for a change?

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 18:22 ]
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How about you shut the hell up?

Author:  myp [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 18:23 ]
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It's a deal.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 18:24 ]
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This is the car thread boys, not the 'sexual tension' thread.

Beside, Myp doesn't even have a car, and Z has about the closest car he can get to not having a car.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 18:25 ]
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Sor-REY! Mr Multi Cars!

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 20:03 ]
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Also, when passing a bus queue, flick kill switch, open throttle, count to three, flick kill switch, giggle.

Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 21:34 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Also, when passing a bus queue, flick kill switch, open throttle, count to three, flick kill switch, giggle.


Heh. Try that in a tunnel.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2010 21:59 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Also, when passing a bus queue, flick kill switch, open throttle, count to three, flick kill switch, giggle.

:this:

Unless it's wet enough for you to lock up. Not so giggly then.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:38 ]
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myoptikakaka wrote:
I'm not sure how shouting at a Porsche is going to help.


899 Bananas

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:31 ]
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Wipers have gone weird again.

They were fine for a while, but after trying to clear a little snow that had settled on the windscreen they started parking higher up, gradually getting worse on my drive home until they parked at the top when I got back.

This morning they completely stopped mid wipe after slowing down, then started again and began parking in a much lower (almost correct but just enough to piss me off) position. I'd hate for them to bork up completely especially if it's bad weather and I have Baba Z on board.

WTFF

Is this a battery thing or a wiper motor thing? Where should I throw my money? HLP PLZ

Author:  kalmar [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:32 ]
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It's 100% not a battery thing.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:41 ]
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Beginning to suspect the motor now. Same stuff happened to someone else on the 323 forum.

Author:  kalmar [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:46 ]
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Technically speaking it's not the motor either, it's the position switch box that's built into it. It does sound like it needs replacing though.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:49 ]
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Can you get them on their own or would I need the motor replacing?

Is it something a novice could do?

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