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Author: | GazChap [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 14:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits |
If it was oil level light, fair enough. Oil pressure light is a different kettle o'fish, especially if you keep driving after it comes on. |
Author: | markg [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 14:31 ] |
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BikNorton wrote: So that's another £100. That's half way to a half-decent Mk2 MX-5, that is. From what I've seen more like half way toward an MX-5 that could easily end up being just as much of a money pit. MX-5's past a certain age are valued entirely on their condition and anything less than about £1000-1500 is highly likely to have its share of rust or other problems. |
Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 14:36 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Also, Meaty's new Celica is chain-driven. Cambelts are significantly cheaper to produce, but apart from that I reckon most manufacturers stick to belts because they need replacing and therefore people might bring them into the dealerships to have it done. Chains aren't as noisy as they used to be. Quite. Ms K's Corsa has a chain and, at 140,000 miles, the engine is still amazingly quiet. |
Author: | BikNorton [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 14:49 ] |
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markg wrote: BikNorton wrote: So that's another £100. That's half way to a half-decent Mk2 MX-5, that is. From what I've seen more like half way toward an MX-5 that could easily end up being just as much of a money pit. MX-5's past a certain age are valued entirely on their condition and anything less than about £1000-1500 is highly likely to have its share of rust or other problems.* £475 for the clutch all-in, £270 for the flywheel (I assume inc VAT) with no extra labour, and £100 for the pipe. |
Author: | Grim... [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 15:55 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Oil pressure light is a different kettle o'fish, especially if you keep driving after it comes on. It is referred to in this house as a "£600 stupid light". Or maybe a £7k "fucking useless" light. |
Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 15:59 ] |
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chinnyhill10 wrote: Hmm, oil light came on this morning so I had to get some oil to top her up. Presumably all the cold weather has caused the engine to burn more oil. It shouldn't be burning oil at all really. You shouldn't need to put in more than a couple of glugs every 10,000 miles (although checking it more often is wise!) |
Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 18:41 ] |
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kalmar wrote: chinnyhill10 wrote: Hmm, oil light came on this morning so I had to get some oil to top her up. Presumably all the cold weather has caused the engine to burn more oil. It shouldn't be burning oil at all really. You shouldn't need to put in more than a couple of glugs every 10,000 miles (although checking it more often is wise!) Golf TDi's are notorious for being a tad thirsty apparently. I will mention it when they do the Cambelt though. Since the amount I put in was enough to take it from below the bottom of the dipstick to max, assuming VW probably topped it up to the midpoint it's probably only burnt the equivalent of a can of coke in the 7k miles since the last service. Looking online at various forums with cars that use the VAG TDi's, it is commonplace though and can be seemingly random between services. |
Author: | metalangel [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 20:34 ] |
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I've never had to top up the oil in the Octavia in over four years of owning it. It's done at the services, but inbetween I've had no cause to do it myself. |
Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 20:48 ] |
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Keep an eye on it. Once they start drinking oil it's usually not long before this happens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4fxjKnuI4Y I've had that exact thing happen to me, in a Ford pickup on the A9. It'll only stop once it's burnt all the oil in the crankcase, or physically exploded. |
Author: | The Egg [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 21:59 ] |
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I don't think topping up a touch of oil after 7k is too much to worry about. I've owned a number of VAG diesels; ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! So I'm no stranger to the seemingly random VAG oil light. Just don't drive another 1,000 miles with the light on, I wouldn't recommend that, but then again you aren't an idiot. My Mk V golf was delivered with 36 miles on the clock and that even had a litre of Castrol in the boot ready for a top up (admittedly this is likely to be because it was new). There's a cubby hole and strap built in to the (right hand?) side of the boot specifically for your litre of topping up oil. I think it's normal* * This statement does not come with any warranty, implied or otherwise, should your car suffer catastrophic failure The Egg Inc accepts no responsibility. At their sole discretion The Egg Inc may provide £1 for the Megabus home. |
Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 22:51 ] |
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kalmar wrote: Keep an eye on it. Once they start drinking oil it's usually not long before this happens: As The Egg points out, it seems to be pretty routine on the TDi's. In fact looking at some of the forums my consumption is nothing compared to some peoples! Will keep an eye on it though, but it is a known issue. |
Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 22:53 ] |
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The Egg wrote: My Mk V golf was delivered with 36 miles on the clock and that even had a litre of Castrol in the boot ready for a top up (admittedly this is likely to be because it was new). There's a cubby hole and strap built in to the (right hand?) side of the boot specifically for your litre of topping up oil. I think it's normal*[/size] Very thirsty when new apparently which is why VW give the oil away with the car. |
Author: | kalmar [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 23:08 ] |
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Some TDis, yesterday: |
Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 23:21 ] |
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kalmar wrote: Some TDis, yesterday: That's what would happen if JC was allowed near one. |
Author: | Malabelm [ Tue Feb 02, 2010 23:31 ] |
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chinnyhill10 wrote: kalmar wrote: Some TDis, yesterday: That's what would happen if JC was allowed near one. A few of them have LEDs, too. Definitely JC. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:35 ] |
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Mali-mobile update! Whilst I was learning about assigning leases and subletting, Mr Caprios was at MaliTowers and on my return he said: "Hey matey! Dead Rising's quite good fun! I checked the car" Anyways, old battery came out, new battery was connected up and on the first click of the key the light on the dashboard came on and the headlights worked ad stuff like that. Three attempts to start the engine then brought it all back to square one, with a dead new battery. So, deffo electrical gremlins mocking us. What's plan of action now? |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:39 ] |
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Say hi to Kovacs. I take it you went for the £10 battery from a scrapyard option If the engine is that difficult to start you probably need to change the glowplugs. Anyway, now, buy a good set of jumpleads and get the car started. Then check that it's charging properly, and take it for a little run to charge the battery again. |
Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:42 ] |
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'Get a 360' seems to have a slightly different meaning here, as an italian sports car would probably be out of the 'affordable zone' for most of us here, and wouldn't be much good for lugging surfboards around. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:45 ] |
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Sir Taxalot wrote: 'Get a 360' seems to have a slightly different meaning here, as an italian sports car would probably be out of the 'affordable zone' for most of us here, and wouldn't be much good for lugging surfboards around. I can only get insurance if I keep one in the garage and then I wouldn't be able to open the doors. Also, I dislike the look of them, I think that they are a bit tacky. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:46 ] |
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kalmar wrote: Say hi to Kovacs. I take it you went for the £10 battery from a scrapyard option If the engine is that difficult to start you probably need to change the glowplugs. Anyway, now, buy a good set of jumpleads and get the car started. Then check that it's charging properly, and take it for a little run to charge the battery again. Cheers, I'll pass it on, he left this morning. I've got some jump leads somewhere, I think. |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits |
OK, for jump-starting a car, connect it to the other car, allow the engine on the other car to idle for 10-15 minutes, then attempt to start your car with the other car still running. If it still sounds sluggish or the jumpleads begin smoking, stop and wait another 10-15 minutes. If it's turning over fine and fast but still refusing to start, you have another problem, so stop. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:51 ] |
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kalmar wrote: OK, for jump-starting a car, connect it to the other car, allow the engine on the other car to idle for 10-15 minutes, then attempt to start your car with the other car still running. If it still sounds sluggish or the jumpleads begin smoking, stop and wait another 10-15 minutes. If it's turning over fine and fast but still refusing to start, you have another problem, so stop. Noted, lovely,ta. |
Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:59 ] |
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kalmar wrote: If it still sounds sluggish or the jumpleads begin smoking, stop and wait another 10-15 minutes. What if they finish their ciggy before then? |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:03 ] |
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kalmar wrote: Say hi to Kovacs. I take it you went for the £10 battery from a scrapyard option If the engine is that difficult to start you probably need to change the glowplugs. Anyway, now, buy a good set of jumpleads and get the car started. Then check that it's charging properly, and take it for a little run to charge the battery again. hi, did swap the battery nad pit the old one on charge.. It sounded like a short, and the stater motor did not want to turn over, Three tries and the babttery was dead again.. |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:10 ] |
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KovacsC wrote: hi, did swap the battery nad pit the old one on charge.. It sounded like a short, and the stater motor did not want to turn over, Hmm. So it turned over but very slowly? In what way did it "sound like a short"? Quote: Three tries and the babttery was dead again.. Hopefully it was probably just flat to start with. If you don't have other options, take it back to the garage it came from and ask them to charge it or give you a fresher one. They don't have a very long shelf life. |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:19 ] |
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kalmar wrote: OK, for jump-starting a car, connect it to the other car, allow the engine on the other car to idle for 10-15 minutes, then attempt to start your car with the other car still running. If it still sounds sluggish or the jumpleads begin smoking, stop and wait another 10-15 minutes. If it's turning over fine and fast but still refusing to start, you have another problem, so stop. That's quite different to the way I do it. |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:20 ] |
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It did not sound liek it was turning over.. like it wanted to but did not. I put the original on charge last night so it could be ok to try today. |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:21 ] |
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What's the way you do it? |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:23 ] |
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KovacsC wrote: It did not sound liek it was turning over.. like it wanted to but did not. I put the original on charge last night so it could be ok to try today. Well, let us know how that turns out. Either: there's a problem with the car Or: the new battery was completely flat to start with, which means it will never be as good as it should be and you should definitely take it back. A multimeter (even a £5 maplin one) would be a bit help in figuring out what's going on. |
Author: | Cras [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:33 ] |
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kalmar wrote: What's the way you do it? I reckon it involves liberally splashing petrol around, setting it on fire (for coolz), then push-starting it with a crane. |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:35 ] |
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LET'S OFF ROAD |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:40 ] |
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kalmar wrote: KovacsC wrote: It did not sound liek it was turning over.. like it wanted to but did not. I put the original on charge last night so it could be ok to try today. Well, let us know how that turns out. Either: there's a problem with the car Or: the new battery was completely flat to start with, which means it will never be as good as it should be and you should definitely take it back. A multimeter (even a £5 maplin one) would be a bit help in figuring out what's going on. I did not have my multimeter or jumpleads on me... I was just passing on my way home!! |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:41 ] |
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kalmar wrote: A multimeter (even a £5 maplin one) would be a bit help in figuring out what's going on. Failing that - a quick test. Turn on the headlights. Turn the key to start. Do the headlights dim only slightly, dim a lot, or go out completely? This instruction for MaliA... |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:44 ] |
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kalmar wrote: Failing that - a quick test. Turn on the headlights. Turn the key to start. Do the headlights dim only slightly, dim a lot, or go out completely? Or D. Geoff Hurst in the 1966 World Cup Final? |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:55 ] |
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kalmar wrote: kalmar wrote: A multimeter (even a £5 maplin one) would be a bit help in figuring out what's going on. Failing that - a quick test. Turn on the headlights. Turn the key to start. Do the headlights dim only slightly, dim a lot, or go out completely? This instruction for MaliA... Did Check the lights worked |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:58 ] |
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So, erm, what happened? |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 13:13 ] |
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they worked... |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 13:14 ] |
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Well, I tried. Didn't I try, people? |
Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 13:17 ] |
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Cheers Kalmar, I can;t doa lot more as I am 100 miles away.. only went to help get the battery out as it was jammed.. |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 13:18 ] |
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kalmar wrote: What's the way you do it? Start good car, wire batteries together, rev good car, start second car. Wait a bit if it is still flat. Or, if my Tomcat has a flat battery: Press the 'link' button on the battery controller and start engine. |
Author: | kalmar [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 13:20 ] |
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Grim... wrote: kalmar wrote: What's the way you do it? Start good car, wire batteries together, rev good car, start second car. Wait a bit if it is still flat. Well, that's what I said, but with pre-emptive waiting and without the revving This is more likely to be successful first time especially if cheap crap jumpleads are in play. |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 13:24 ] |
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Craster wrote: kalmar wrote: What's the way you do it? I reckon it involves liberally splashing petrol around, setting it on fire (for coolz), then push-starting it with a crane. kalmar wrote: :metul: LET'S OFF ROAD That wouldn't work on the Tomcat - it's an automatic |
Author: | Cras [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 13:25 ] |
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It would look cool though. |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 15:02 ] |
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Cavey? CAVEY? Did you ever have problems with the coils in your TT? |
Author: | BikNorton [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 15:58 ] |
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All VAG 1.8s have problems with their coils. Bosch have run out of letters they've done so many revisions. Dunno about the ones on the 3.2 I think Cavey had though. My car is ready, apparently. The garage guy sounded exasperated and/or exhausted on the phone. |
Author: | DBSnappa [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 17:00 ] |
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Tamiya in anniversary celebrations of their Sand Scorcher Bug RC car from the 80's have commissioned a company to make a 1:1 replica. http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/defau ... ryId=21459 |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 17:03 ] |
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That's brilliant! |
Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 17:23 ] |
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BikNorton wrote: All VAG 1.8s have problems with their coils. Bosch have run out of letters they've done so many revisions. Dunno about the ones on the 3.2 I think Cavey had though. My car is ready, apparently. The garage guy sounded exasperated and/or exhausted on the phone. Not just 1.8's. Any VAG car with Bosch parts made between 1998 and 2001 is liable to see the aforementioned parts failed. Something went horrible wrong with their QC. In my old Golf the aircon pump went, the starter went and the coil literally disintergrated. All Bosch and all issues known about. In fact earlier this year I was following an identical car to the one I was driving that was being towed to a garage. I could smell the same smell I'd experienced a few months previous when my own coil went. |
Author: | Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 17:48 ] |
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Yeah, I'm interested in cars with more than one coil. The system probably has a name, but I haven't looked it up |
Author: | BikNorton [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 17:55 ] |
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It was still happening with MkII Octavia vRSes too, much later than 2001. |
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